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 February 7, 2015 · 5:40 am
How do we defeat ISIS – Queen ISIS of Syria or Goddess of Egypt? 
https://christianeministry.wordpress.com/2015/02/07/how-do-we-defeat-isis-queen-isis-of-syria-or-goddess-of-egypt/ 

How do we defeat ISIS – Queen ISIS of Syria or Goddess of Egypt?

First up, my posistion with terrorism is that we will not win that war until we have leaders in government and military like we did in WWII (World war Two) who would go into all areas all at once and kill and/or capture ALL of the terrorists like they did with the Nazis and elsewhere. This takes the several nations together and great coordination as it did then. The reaction can be to storm in and slaughter. With these Islamists/Moslems loosely, there are two basic streams of activities. The one is fights over the descendants of their prophet Mohammed. The other is the descendants of Ishmael, which actually the religion is based on [Genesis Chapters 16,17]. One becomes the leader when they claim the most perfect truth of it all and even fights among themselves over that. Bin Laden was running the mother of all battles claiming the most perfect knowledge of Ishmael and all descendants and being the Promised Land themselves and why he had his followers. My Bible Studies showed the error of his ways, his not understanding the Scriptures of God and their fulness, who he claimed to be a child heir of and the Promised Land. Read on…

But what of the religious charges? Do you forget God’s warnings in Ezekiel? If you do not warn those in the name of God of their destruction for sin and not repenting then God said he will hold you responsible for their deaths!!!! But who of the terrorists can possibly be their Watchman > EZEKIEL CHAPTER 33 READ IT. Their watchmen have no knowledge of God or Christ, how can they warn? They hold antichist doctrine and believe not of attack and defeat. How can we hold their watchmen responsible then? We are, spreading the Gospel to every tongue (person).

Psalms 127:1 Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.

Ezekiel 3:17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.
18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.
Ezekiel 33:1 Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:*n1
3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;
4 Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.
5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.
6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand. 

It is the Christian responsibility to warn them in the name of God. When has the Christian world EVER gone into the Mid East and preached the Word of God the Good News of the Gospel? And therefore as God said these shall remain as thorns in the side until we do. In the Bible Studies I posted a near complete comprehensive understanding direct from the Holy Bible concerning all of them and who is right and who is wrong – who is real and who is false. Word for Word directly from the Mouth of God. It is as simple as reading it. Have you??? I challange you to read them all when you have a couple hours put aside and quiet. GO HERE http://churchphilaforums.freesmfhosting.com/index.php ….and CLICK BIBLE STUDIES POSTED….READ THESE…. # Who Are the Palestinians. # Introductory Study: Mid-East Peace, How? # Studies 1 throuigh 5. READ ALL AND DONT SKIP !!!!

So lets take a walk in Jesus’s footsteps as he commanded us to. He commanded the Gospel be taught to be followed. War is war when invaded. The only shot is the best defense put up until they surrender after being slaughtered enough in battle. No words. Just guns. That is a reality. That is self defense, speaking as an American. But God, and through Jesus, has given us so much more – to know ahead of time what we should be doing before events as that would happen. He gave us foreknowledge of all events and particularly in Revelation as far as being a present truth. So let’s walk in Jesus’s footprints through His Gospel.

II Corinthians 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

We can approach these with the instruction to learn of their weapons of warfare not carnal, and learn how to pull down their strong holds of false misguided antichrist faith and teachings.

And so we find instruction, a plan of attack. Know the nature of the enemy, his thoughts, beliefs he is operating under. Knowing then they are delusions and falsehoods, we attack them, destroying the false teaching and faith and thoughts. God called our enemies “deceitful bows” [Psalms 78:57] meaning are not true, does not shoot straight. Their weapons of attack are based on lies and are the seed of falsehoods. Isn’t it the coincidence these now have picked ISIL – ISIS as their namesake in war. Are they mocking (“giving the army all the drugs they can do and all she wants to do is dance” song) and actually calling their operation Queen Isis the ancient godess queen of Egypt? To say, the evil Babylon golden city “queen of heaven” (earthly goods and not God’s)  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis 

If we go right from the son of Abraham, Isaac (and Ishmael the “illegitimate child”)….

Genesis 25:19 And these are the generations of Isaac, Abraham’s son: Abraham begat Isaac:
20 And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebekah to wife, the daughter of Bethuel the Syrian of Padan–aram, the sister to Laban the Syrian.
21 And Isaac intreated the Lord for his wife, because she was barren: and the Lord was intreated of him, and Rebekah his wife conceived.
22 And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If it be so, why am I thus? And she went to enquire of the Lord.
23 And the Lord said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.
24 And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.
25 And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.
26 And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau’s heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

Now we all know Jacob is then named Israel by God and whom the nation is named. But in the game playing twisted mind of ISIS isn’t it the coincidence the terrorists are now striking from Syria and aren’t they claiming as Islam/Muslim faith that the mother is Syrian and Esau was firstborn and has the birthright of all of the father (Abraham) and therefore (as is their ususal claims) Israel and the Jews have no claim to Palestine – it belongs to them and not the Jews. And so all good Bible Students should remember in the Scriptures how that Jacob stole the birthright of Esau in Genesis Chapter 27. Read it. 

Now Isaac being old and dying during this when Esau came in for the blessing of the firstborn did say and from God…

Genesis 27:39 And Isaac his father answered and said unto him, Behold, thy dwelling shall be the fatness of the earth, and of the dew of heaven from above;
40 And by thy sword shalt thou live, and shalt serve thy brother; and it shall come to pass when thou shalt have the dominion, that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck. …..This means when Esau, being now the figure of all these, atones for selling his birthright, he shall be free of the servitude of the Lord in this matter. That yoke shall be destroyed and shall no longer be served for the atonment of their sin, but they shall be free. 

The Prophecies by God concerning these….

Jeremiah 49:7 Concerning Edom, thus saith the Lord of hosts; Is wisdom no more in Teman? is counsel perished from the prudent? is their wisdom vanished?
8 Flee ye, turn back, dwell deep, O inhabitants of Dedan; for I will bring the calamity of Esau upon him, the time that I will visit him.
9 If grapegatherers come to thee, would they not leave some gleaning grapes? if thieves by night, they will destroy till they have enough.
10 But I have made Esau bare, I have uncovered his secret places, and he shall not be able to hide himself: his seed is spoiled, and his brethren, and his neighbours, and he is not.  11 Leave thy fatherless children, I will preserve them alive; and let thy widows trust in me.
12 For thus saith the Lord; Behold, they whose judgment was not to drink of the cup have assuredly drunken; and art thou he that shall altogether go unpunished? thou shalt not go unpunished, but thou shalt surely drink of it.
13 For I have sworn by myself, saith the Lord, that Bozrah shall become a desolation, a reproach, a waste, and a curse; and all the cities thereof shall be perpetual wastes.
14 I have heard a rumour from the Lord, and an ambassador is sent unto the heathen, saying, Gather ye together, and come against her, and rise up to the battle.
15 For, lo, I will make thee small among the heathen, and despised among men.
16 Thy terribleness hath deceived thee, and the pride of thine heart, O thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, that holdest the height of the hill: though thou shouldest make thy nest as high as the eagle, I will bring thee down from thence, saith the Lord.
17 Also Edom shall be a desolation: every one that goeth by it shall be astonished, and shall hiss at all the plagues thereof.
18 As in the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbour cities thereof, saith the Lord, no man shall abide there, neither shall a son of man dwell in it.
19 Behold, he shall come up like a lion from the swelling of Jordan against the habitation of the strong: but I will suddenly make him run away from her: and who is a chosen man, that I may appoint over her? for who is like me? and who will appoint me the time? and who is that shepherd that will stand before me?
20 Therefore hear the counsel of the Lord, that he hath taken against Edom; and his purposes, that he hath purposed against the inhabitants of Teman: Surely the least of the flock shall draw them out: surely he shall make their habitations desolate with them.
21 The earth is moved at the noise of their fall, at the cry the noise thereof was heard in the Red sea.
22 Behold, he shall come up and fly as the eagle, and spread his wings over Bozrah: and at that day shall the heart of the mighty men of Edom be as the heart of a woman in her pangs.

(Response from US Armed Forces? Your shidt’s in the wind!!!)

MORE !!!!…..

Obadiah 1:1 The vision of Obadiah.
Thus saith the Lord God concerning Edom; We have heard a rumour from the Lord, and an ambassador is sent among the heathen, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle.
2 Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised.
3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord.
5 If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night, (how art thou cut off!) would they not have stolen till they had enough? if the grapegatherers came to thee, would they not leave some grapes?
6 How are the things of Esau searched out! how are his hidden things sought up!
7 All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him.
8 Shall I not in that day, saith the Lord, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?
9 And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter.
10 For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.
11 In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them.
12 But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress.
13 Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamity;
14 Neither shouldest thou have stood in the crossway, to cut off those of his that did escape; neither shouldest thou have delivered up those of his that did remain in the day of distress.
15 For the day of the Lord is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.
16 For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, so shall all the heathen drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and they shall be as though they had not been.
17 ¶But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.
18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the Lord hath spoken it.
19 And they of the south shall possess the mount of Esau; and they of the plain the Philistines: and they shall possess the fields of Ephraim, and the fields of Samaria: and Benjamin shall possess Gilead.
20 And the captivity of this host of the children of Israel shall possess that of the Canaanites, even unto Zarephath; and the captivity of Jerusalem, which is in Sepharad, shall possess the cities of the south.
21 And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord’s.

MORE!!!!! ……..

Malachi 1:1 The burden of the word of the Lord to Israel by Malachi.
2 I have loved you, saith the Lord. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob’s brother? saith the Lord: yet I loved Jacob,
3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the Lord of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the Lord hath indignation for ever.
5 And your eyes shall see, and ye shall say, The Lord will be magnified from the border of Israel…. 

God preaches to these through Apostle Paul in Romans Chapter 9…..

1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.
3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sara shall have a son.
10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.
27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
29 And as Esaias [Elijah] said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.
30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

And God preaches the more through Apostle Paul (who was Jew and Roman descent) in Hebrews Chapter 11 and in brief…..

Hebrews 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,
18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:
19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.
20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come.

….What things to come? What I showed you above and that there shall always be a remnant of believers, for all nations in the end shall worship God….

Genesis 27:39 And Isaac his father answered and said unto him, Behold, thy dwelling shall be the fatness of the earth, and of the dew of heaven from above;
40 And by thy sword shalt thou live, and shalt serve thy brother; and it shall come to pass when thou shalt have the dominion, that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck.

…..This means when Esau, being now the figure of all these, atones for selling his birthright, he shall be free of the servitude of the Lord in this matter. That yoke shall be destroyed and shall no longer be served for the atonment of their sin, but they shall be free – the converts of them shall come out of them, the rest to Hell. 

And the final Word……

Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,
19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:
20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:
21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29 For our God is a consuming fire.
This is what the President, those of Congress, and Intelligence and Military are doing in our and their behalf. Putting together that work in progress of attack for victory – the full victory or best attained for the greatest yield – harvest of souls. Give them the credit and honor they deserve as trying to serve Christ and Nation as best they can. The immediate reaction is blood for blood – that eye for eye. But is it best ? Sometimes it is and commanded so and done by God. Most times it is not. We have to ponder in our souls – what would Jesus Christ have us do and then do that. We are all charged with the unsaved souls of the world. Have we done our part to save them with the Word of God? As is written…..

Isaiah 50:4 The Lord God hath given me the tongue of the learned, that I should know how to speak a word in season to him that is weary: he wakeneth morning by morning, he wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned.
5 ¶The Lord God hath opened mine ear, and I was not rebellious, neither turned away back.
6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.
7 ¶For the Lord God will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded: therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be ashamed.
8 He is near that justifieth me; who will contend with me? let us stand together: who is mine adversary? let him come near to me.
9 Behold, the Lord God will help me; who is he that shall condemn me? lo, they all shall wax old as a garment; the moth shall eat them up.
10 ¶Who is among you that feareth the Lord, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the name of the Lord, and stay upon his God.
11 Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled. This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow.

REVENGE FOR THE SLAIN ? Let us pray God will treat them as he has in the past when these devils held what was God’s and remember “render unto Ceaser what is Ceaser’s and unto God what is God’s”…..

I Samuel 5:1 And the Philistines took the ark of God, and brought it from Eben–ezer unto Ashdod.
2 When the Philistines took the ark of God, they brought it into the house of Dagon, and set it by Dagon.
3 ¶And when they of Ashdod arose early on the morrow, behold, Dagon was fallen upon his face to the earth before the ark of the Lord. And they took Dagon, and set him in his place again.
4 And when they arose early on the morrow morning, behold, Dagon was fallen upon his face to the ground before the ark of the Lord; and the head of Dagon and both the palms of his hands were cut off upon the threshold; only the stump of Dagon was left to him.
5 Therefore neither the priests of Dagon, nor any that come into Dagon’s house, tread on the threshold of Dagon in Ashdod unto this day.
6 But the hand of the Lord was heavy upon them of Ashdod, and he destroyed them, and smote them with emerods, even Ashdod and the coasts thereof.
7 And when the men of Ashdod saw that it was so, they said, The ark of the God of Israel shall not abide with us: for his hand is sore upon us, and upon Dagon our god.
8 They sent therefore and gathered all the lords of the Philistines unto them, and said, What shall we do with the ark of the God of Israel? And they answered, Let the ark of the God of Israel be carried about unto Gath. And they carried the ark of the God of Israel about thither.
9 And it was so, that, after they had carried it about, the hand of the Lord was against the city with a very great destruction: and he smote the men of the city, both small and great, and they had emerods in their secret parts.
10 ¶Therefore they sent the ark of God to Ekron. And it came to pass, as the ark of God came to Ekron, that the Ekronites cried out, saying, They have brought about the ark of the God of Israel to us, to slay us and our people.
11 So they sent and gathered together all the lords of the Philistines, and said, Send away the ark of the God of Israel, and let it go again to his own place, that it slay us not, and our people: for there was a deadly destruction throughout all the city; the hand of God was very heavy there.
12 And the men that died not were smitten with the emerods: and the cry of the city went up to heaven.

AND OUR PRAYERS CAN BE OUR SPOKEN WORDS CAN BE AS WEAPONS DESTROYING THESE ANTICHRISTS AND HAVE THEIR EVIL MINDS A DESTROYED VISION…..

Amos 9:1 I saw the Lord standing upon the altar: and he said, Smite the lintel of the door, that the posts may shake: and cut them in the head, all of them; and I will slay the last of them with the sword: he that fleeth of them shall not flee away, and he that escapeth of them shall not be delivered.
2 Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:
3 And though they hide themselves in the top of Carmel, I will search and take them out thence; and though they be hid from my sight in the bottom of the sea, thence will I command the serpent, and he shall bite them:
4 And though they go into captivity before their enemies, thence will I command the sword, and it shall slay them: and I will set mine eyes upon them for evil, and not for good.
5 And the Lord God of hosts is he that toucheth the land, and it shall melt, and all that dwell therein shall mourn: and it shall rise up wholly like a flood; and shall be drowned, as by the flood of Egypt.
6 It is he that buildeth his stories in the heaven, and hath founded his troop in the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The Lord is his name.

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 on: October 04, 2014, 10:21:31 am 
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A Final Lee Harvey Oswald Note

I must apologize I forgot about this point.

Once more and more came out to the Public about Lee Harvey Oswald, it lead to an obvious point of the trying to decide about him. There split the two views - one that he was "one of ours" (American good guy) who defected to USSR per his assignment as double agent, and two - was he actually a double agent bad guy working for the USSR. More simply, who's side was he on and working for - as it became apparent he was much more involved then being a simple "lone nut" that ran out on America and then vice versa from the USSR.

And so we go to Dallas on November 22, 1963 to the actual events immediately after the assassination up until Oswald himself was shot down in cold blood.

My thoughts are about if he was some American good guy spy working for the government as, one area, of spying on things going on between the United States and Cuba. I also turn to the many "testimonies" by Colonel F. Prouty about the U-2 Spy Plane events and how Oswald had a background in that in the military, and tying into his defection - that he did give up any information about that as part of defection, that it is required to "tell all" you know about the American Military as enemies of the USSR. With the information that came out, it was obvious in other words that Oswald was not a simple Private in the Army. The USSR was or became well aware of his Military service because he had a "loud" profile. He had a Top Secret position in the U-2 Spy Plane scenario. In those days of the Cold War - this was very loud and very spied upon and very sought out for defection from both sides - America and the USSR - trying to recruit traitors to learn military strengths secrets. It was simply routine and par for the course in those days. And so there is no doubt that the USSR was well aware of Oswald's military service background and that if he held back about the U-2 they would obviously have taken some action against him in a rejection in some manner instantly. And then was that the Soviet tactic played in sending him back to America - to make it appear to American Government that the Soviets were treating him well with employment and allowed the KGB niece's hand in marriage as to be "buttering him up" to finally tell all, and that he didn't and so he was returned to America?

But back to Dallas and as thoughts we go to he was an American good guy side again. This would make him an American "asset" as an FBI Informant or CIA or Military and so on. The key thought to focus on here is - was Oswald an American asset? And here we are just after 12:30 P.M. Dallas time Nov 22 1963. Within an hour and so and of all things an American Asset has just been arrested for killing a Police Officer and is going to be charged with assassinating the President of the United States who has just died. Now being an Asset, his whereabouts where known to them.

So picture it. Whether the FBI, CIA, etc they are hearing the news of the assassination and death and 2 plus 2 immediately goes to their Asset Oswald is employed right there at the assassination scene at Dealy Plaza, Dallas. Possibly they are thinking of others in other fashions. Obviously they would be now looking for any reports from their Assets about the assassination - anything they would know no matter how small or great.

So now get this - within those first hours their Asset is about to be charged with assassinating the President of the United States after already being charged with the murder of a Police Officer. Perhaps granting lightening reaction moves upon hearing the name Oswald, it would seem prudent then under all that is required by Law and responsibility and professionalism and expected common compliance that they would have rushed into Dallas Police Station and identify themselves and declare that they have arrested an Asset of the CIA or FBI or Military etc. The Dallas Police would have been assured it was proposterous that this Asset was involved in any manner whatsoever with the assassination of the President. At the worst, the Dallas Police and District Attorney may have argued there was far too much evidence Oswald shot an Officer and argued they were holding him on that, which again would have probably brought in their (FBI CIA etc) superiors who would have assured them the Asset Oswald in no way whatsoever was involved in shooting anyone and perhaps swear them to National Security and show them his record of service as an Asset to convince them and then order his release. The Local News would get stuck with word from the Dallas Police that in some manner the original suspect was indeed the wrong person and was released as having an airtight aliby etc.

BOTTOM LINE...... here is the point made, that if Oswald was a good-guy Asset of the American Government it is INCOMPREHENSIBLE to believe that he would have spent anymore than an hour in custody, as the Dallas Police would have been ordered by Federal Authority to release him immediately, identifying who he was and what he was doing working at the School Book Depository. Any further in time than the hour at most would have ended how it did into a complete on-scence Media Circus by the Free Press - and now that would have to be explained, and Asset compromised, that Asset Oswald was in some manner an undercover agent or informant working for the Government / Agency and was dismissed from charges and released. It is INCOMPREHENSIBLE to believe that the American Government / Agency would leave their Asset to the dogs (malicious prosecution) so that covert activities were not compromised by the Public exposure - even facing trial for the assassination of the President - at the expense of the Asset.

And what was further, it is INCOMPREHENSIBLE to believe that the Oswald Rifle and any evidence found was not immediately being investigated as planted evidence and as Oswald said - making him a "patsy". The full investigation would have been just that - a now, full blown investigation into planted evidence as the murder weapon et al and by who and when and where of it all as being planted to frame their Asset. At that point, it would have been digestible by the Press and Public that an American Asset was set up for the crime and reveal that Oswald was indeed a double agent working for the American Government - a complete known and trusted Asset working under orders and admirably, and that now his undercover identity compromised and the attempted framing for the crimes left no other choice but to take Oswald into Protective Federal Custody and from public eyes and access.

If you indeed have been following my thesis here (and is in polished order in my ebook launched for publication available any minute now for download) and we go to the manner in which the true conspiracy was conducting themselves - we go to two more of their obvious plants then that fits into the entire scenario and as centerpiece as Oswald himself planted as false evidence as an apparent patsy to baffle investigation and was a kamikaze willing to die for it (foreknowledge of being shot in custody transfer). Not far fetched as Gary Powers himself (captured U-2 Pilot in USSR) had a suicide pill to take if caught. So they (real conspirators) persuade Oswald if he shot and killed the President, he would most likely get caught and have taken a suicide pill any way so why not make that work for us - plant you and evidence and then shoot you being transferred from the local Jail. Two more pieces of "plants" ......


Two more pieces of "plants" ......

As the "pristine bullet" was planted on the stretcher as well as the Oswald rifle etc., the Conpirators were as handing American Investigation their "cover story" for a full blown clandestine investigation ongoing. Here they plant Oswald and the rifle and the bullet and fragments and the pristine bullet ends up the "single bullet theory" that was handed to them - not Arlon Spector inventing that, it was that already by the planted evidence - one bullet did it. So as mocking American Investigation - they plant Oswald with giving them the ability to publicly state that Oswald was an American Asset and apparently being framed and has been taken into Federal Protection. Then they have Oswald where they want him - for full interrogation secretly and out of the sight and minds of the Public.

So get this - they also had Billy Nolan Lovelady planted (Oswald look alike outside on Depository steps at time of shooting) so that they are giving the Dallas Police their cover story as the Government / Agency comes in within the hour explaining Oswald and having him released - the Dallas Police then go public and say Oswald was a mistaken person apprehended and actually they were looking for Billy Nolan Lovelady (feasible, they are lookalikes) - and then they go public with that Lovelady had an airtight aliby as he was seen on the steps outfront during the shooting itself (Altgens photo, others).

Now get this.... then after clearing Oswald and Lovelady, the American Investigation is handed the next "plant of evidence" of the clown behind the Grassy Knoll fence that showed a Secret Service Badge at the time of the shooting to a Dallas Police Officer rushing to the scene who let him go. It is to dawn on the Dallas Police to now announce to Free Press that a full blown All Points Bulletin Manhunt is under way to find whoever identified themselves as Secret Service when there was none in service that day at that position, that the Secret Service themselves declare it was an imposter and is now wanted in the case. So these all are the plants handed American Investigation with the premise that if they had anything on the ball they would have ran the story that Oswald was indeed an Asset (as his background showed) and was taken into secret Protective Federal Custody being framed for the assassination (gun planted etc) and feasibly to the Public and Free Press if indeed they wanted to really interrogate Oswald in full privacy with chance to come clean with testifying Soviet involvement (conspirators) and clemency.

And so the real conspirators are there with their pre-judged opinion confirmed that in the crime of the century the Americans suck suck suck. They were handed Oswald on a silver platter for a real and secret National Security interrogation into his knowledge and participation in the conspiracy and completely missed "connecting the dots" because they live in complete naive delusions of grandeur of self worth and relevance and power in the world.

Again - it is INCOMPREHENSIBLE to believe that the American Government would have allowed a good-guy Asset Oswald to be charged with the assassination of the American President and stay in Dallas Police Station jail cell going on 1, 2, 3 days and be gunned down in cold blood while in custody - abandoning him against duty and honor with his would-be noted Service to the United States of America as the Asset he performed - to leave him to stand trial and completely abandoning him altogether. It is INCOMPREHENSIBLE to believe that the Government / Agency would have come in at some later date and explain to some Judge those circumstances and have the trial aborted. They would have had Oswald released into their custody IMMEDIATELY OBVIOUSLY.

THIS HAS BEEN WRITTEN THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BELIEVE THAT LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS AN INNOCENT PATSY UNINVOLVED IN THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN FITZGERALD KENNEDY - AS IS SHOWN HERE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BELIEVE HE WAS AN AMERICAN GOOD-GUY UNDERCOVER SET UP AS A PATSY BY CONSPIRATORS AND THAT INDEED HE WAS AN AMERICAN TRAITOR WHO DEFECTED TO THE USSR AND GAVE INTELLIGENCE TO THE ENEMIES OF THE US CONSTITUTION. OSWALD WAS NOT INNOCENT AND UNINVOLVED. IN THAT VIEW RECEIVE RESEARCH RESULTS AS THERE ARE THOSE THAT KEEP SPREADING THE MISINFORMATION THAT OSWALD WAS INNOCENT AND UNINVOLVED IN THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT J. F. KENNEDY.

LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS A TRAITOR - PERIOD !

HE WAS NONE OF OURS (AMERICA) OR THEY WOULD HAVE CLAIMED HIM AS ASSET AND HE NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN ASSASSINATED.

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You might say here, back up, how could employee Lovelady be a plant if he was working there since 1961. Wouldn't he be a recent employee as Oswald if he was a part of that scenario? And you come to my gut feeling from a bird's eye view as taking an over all view of all the evidence and witnesses and general history of the assassination over and over again. Even with how many times each item is pinned as pin the tail to the donkey and makes sense over all, there is still that feeling something is missing - it is not a real truth looking at it, with all the best truth telling the event as even an 90 percent accuracy or better.... there is just that feeling that there was something much more sinister involved. There was no like claim to it like the modern day terrorists will give claim that they did such and such an atrocity and why. It is too obvious Oswald was not a lone nut assassin and that was that, no matter how hard the ostriches pray to that idol. Indeed it is that much of a conspiracy but then what came of that is the question. It doesn't seem visible in that immediate and ongoing future. What this leads to is my original feeling, perhaps an alternative theory, but actual impression altogether is that the USSR duped President Kennedy and America. The USSR appears to me as having planned the whole Cuban Missile Crisis as a farce a few years before it happened, as to be the whole "we surrender" scenario that played out after taking things to the brink of nuclear engagement probable....

So the duping, the set up, goes that the USSR at plot conception mushrooms to the fake set up of the Cuban Missile Crisis well orchestrated to seem real and surrender, and to then return on November 22 1963 in Dallas and literally blow Kennedy's brains out in broad daylight putting America and the World on notice as to who was in command of them with the message this is what any next American President will get if he tries to ever come against the USSR again with surrender or else ultimatums. And it plays out. Viet Nam and illegal surrounding nation's involvements including China go unpunished with no war Declaration. For macho bravado the Warren Commission gets called a cover up instead of a put it all away and let's run away and play ostrich in Viet Nam rather than prosecute the USSR and retaliate. It moves to assassinating MLK with the screw you Eisenhower and Kennedy and your Christian Civil Rights and right to assassinating Robert Kennedy with the don't even think about it - run for President and open the JFK Assassination Case for prosecution. From there to the invasion by the USSR into Czechoslovakia with the I dare you to do something about it. On and on up to sanctioning terrorism against the U.S. and Israel and promoting oil wars with O.P.E.C. - economic wars against the United States and a thousand events in between.

This is a good look at when the Cuban Missile Crisis was born - how deployed and escalating to the point of the crisis. Good history brief:
Cuban Missile Crisis
http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1736.html

There is no way either, to simply believe the Cuban anti-communist crowd killed Kennedy when everyone knows it was the high ranking officer in command of the air support that disobeyed orders causing the fiasco they site over and over again. Neither does anybody really believe that rich businessmen assassinated Kennedy to get even richer over a drummed up lasting Viet Nam A Go-Go War. Nobody believes all the bullshidt handed out from bullshidt researchers about all the bullshidt scenarios of rich men of power did it. Bullshidt. Nobody believes the American mob did it either. None of those had the far reaching hands into what is always called the national cover up. None of any of those could orchestrate that much power and control. The whole LBJ was the power behind it all is as a child's tale made up, fantasy. None of all the tales of who did it - who financed it - hold water or make sense. Presidents in the world have not been killed for these flimsy reasons. No American President has ever been assassinated, or attempt, simply for financial gain. It was much bigger and much more sinister than a fistful of dollars. Recently watching the Oswald trial movie of 1977 I believe it was, there was one line that makes the sense. It went something like Oswald is the whole centerpiece and key to the assassination. You define Oswald and you define the conspiracy.

In defining Oswald to define the conspiracy - the one major part of all this is that Oswald predates the Kennedy Administration, and so does the Gary Powers U-2 Spyplane shoot down and capture. Oswald predates all this back to the Eisenhower Administation.

Lee Harvey Oswald as a Marine radar specialist in Japan and California, Oswald had access to extensive classified information regarding radars, flight patterns, and in particular the new US height-finding radar that would have been of exceptional interest to the KGB in regard to the U-2 spy flights. Oswald told US Embassy officials in Moscow that he intended to reveal sensitive information to the Soviets. In October 1959, after a two-year stint as a radar operator, Oswald became the first Marine to defect to the Soviet Union. Gary Powers, pilot of the U-2 flight downed in May, 1960, suggested that Oswald might have betrayed to the Soviets information that they used to shoot down the U-2. This seems very believable, and it would mean that Oswald had proved himself a loyal communist and one who had provided precious information to the USSR - so the KGB would have trusted him. Oswald returned from the Soviet Union in June 1962.

My pin the tail on the donkey was that, as reported and discussed by Colonel Fletcher Prouty that there was the stronger more powerful camera in the U-2 Spyplane that photographed the missile complex in Cuba confirming to the President their existence and status and used to expose them at the U. N. was the hah- hah America wins..... we caught you with your hand in the cookie jar and you thought all we had was the Gary Powers model camera (else why else would they have them out in the open like that if they knew they would be seen plainly). But the Kennedy assassination scenario here - its reasons - show a World conquest implication. American politics have been the posture as defending the peace and not any world conquest, even with the promoting of democracy worldwide. However the much more sinister act of this duping of America and then blow them away as the opposing super power seems to have accomplished that for some time as a world conquest act, and is actually what the Communist Manifesto International promotes - world conquest.


Mind boggling Oswald Doubles......
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Unspeakable/TwoLHOs.html

So Lovelady plant as early as 1961 in School Book Depository in Dallas ? The USSR new Oswald very well already, not far fetched at all considering the Cuban Missile Crisis occurred in the next year and assassination in the next. 


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 on: October 04, 2014, 10:20:09 am 
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11*22*63 A Space Absurdity, Corrected

Thanks to composer Linda Z at Facebook Group JFK ASSASSINATION RESEARCH BUREAU

SBT supporters posit one of the reasons JFK's head and body goes "back and to the left" from the head shot is "neuromuscular reaction". Since I have a medical background Steve Rxx asked me if I could support him on it. Frankly, I've never heard of it before except I connection to the assassination (turns out Belin and Ford on the WC came up with it as an explanation - apparently finding an expert or experts who were willing to testify it exists). I need proof, so I googled around and found this wonderful explanation from a Canadian neurologist, Dr Robert Zacharko, on alt.assassination.jfk in response to a inquiry to him about this theory. Brace yourself, Steve. "Neuromuscular reaction" is complete pseudoscience hogwash.

The Backward Head Snap in the Zapruder Film

MTGriffith

9/3/99

I asked Dr. Robert Zacharko, a neuroscientist at Carleton University in Canada,
about the theory that JFK's backward head snap was caused by a neuromuscular
reaction. This is really the only theory that Warren Commission supporters
have to offer as an explanation for the violent backward movement of President
Kennedy's head in the Zapruder film. I wrote to Dr. Zacharko as follows:
In frames 312-313 of the Zapruder film, we see Kennedy's head knocked
forward, but then, suddenly, beginning in frame 314, we see his head and
upper body jolted violently backward and to the left as the rightfrontal
area of his skull explodes. One theory says that this violent backward
motion was the result of a neuromuscular reaction. This reaction would
have had to occur in no more than 56 milliseconds. I have two questions
about this theory:

1. Some object to this theory on the basis that the reaction could not
have occurred so quickly. They point out that the fastest involuntary
reaction known to man is the eye blink, which takes about 40
milliseconds. They argue that this indicates that the backward head snap
would have taken longer to occur, since it involved much more mass. One
author phrases this objection as follows:

. . . it [the head] is suddenly driven forward between frames 312
and 313. Amazingly, in the very next frame, 314, it is already
moving backward, a movement it continues in succeeding frames until
the President's shoulders strike the seat cushion at Z321. . . .
The extremely small time factor combined with the relatively
large mass of the President's head would tend to rule out
such an explanation [i.e., the neuromuscular-reaction theory].
The fastest reflex reaction known to science--the startle
response--takes place over an interval of 40 to 200
milliseconds. Beginning with an eyeblink in 40 milliseconds,
the response wave moves the head forward in 83 milliseconds,
and then continues downward reaching the knees in 200 milliseconds.
The change in direction we observe [in the head snap] occurs in 56
milliseconds (1/18th/second), and involves not the negligible mass
of an eyelid but the considerable mass of a human head
moving forward with an acceleration of several g's.

What is your opinion on the speed of the alleged neuromuscular reaction?

2. One author has objected to the neuromuscular-reaction theory on the
following basis:

A "massive neuromuscular reaction," according to Messrs. Ford
and Belin, occurs when there is "massive damage inflicted to nerve
centers of the brain." The nerve centers of the brain are the
pons, the medulla, the cerebellum--all located in the rear of the
brain. According to the Warren Commission and the HSCA, the head
shot damaged the right cerebral hemisphere of Kennedy's
brain--not a nerve coordination center, not capable of causing
a "massive neuromuscular reaction."

The neuromuscular reaction that supposedly accounts for
the backward snap of Kennedy's head when struck by a
bullet from behind could happen only if a major coordinating
center of the brain is damaged. According to the x-rays and
autopsy photos that lone-gunman theorists champion as
evidence of a shot from behind, those areas of the brain
are intact.

What is your opinion of this objection to the neuromuscular-reaction
theory?

Dr. Zacharko responded as follows in an e-mail dated 8 February 1999:

If you ask any neuroscientist what a neuromuscular effect is they will
tell you that it refers to some interface of nerve and muscle for
example. In some cases a simple reflex response (e.g., knee jerk for
example). Can certain reflexes be influenced? Certainly. Do head
movements fall into such a category? No. The head movements that you are

referring to are following the laws of physics. With all due respect to
Belin and Ford I would ask what medical references or more precisely what
research references are being using to document arguments of
neuromuscular reactivity. Simply stated there are none. The pons and
medulla contain centres for respiration, cardiovascular regulation,
visceral reactivity and the like. The cerebellum is also present at this level.
Damage to these areas will interrupt respiration and heart rhythm
and affect motor coordination. Neural damage per se associated with
bullet entry will not cause exaggerated head movement of the type you see
in the Zapruder film. In fact there are no brain sites that will. This
neuromuscular reactivity argument is simply nonsense.[Note: One could
make the argument, ludicrous as it may sound, that Kennedy actually saw
the bullet approaching and jerked his head back reflexively to avoid
being hit.]

The second author does not appear to be any more informed than either
Belin or Ford. There is no such thing as a major coordinating centre.
Those arguments were largely discounted in the 1960's. The brain simply
does not act in such a fashion. It is a coordinated system. Actually
there is a system which is referred to as the extrapyramidal motor
system, which runs from the mesencephalon to the forebrain. It controls
voluntary movement. If this system was to discharge, you would effect
gross motor output. Such discharge would typically represent the invasion
of seizure like activity to motor areas. It would not be coordinated and
certainly not of the type evident in the Zapruder film.

The bottom line is that the head movements are reactions to the direction
of bullet entry. They are not the product of central nervous system
damage. It would almost seem that certain myths are maintained in the
absence of documented data. Information from half-sources of
documentation appear to blend with legitimate sources of information to
provide muddled scenarios.

Sincerely,

Dr Robert M. Zacharko
Life Sciences Research Building
Institute of Neuroscience
Carleton University
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

The neuromuscular-reaction theory is the principal hypothesis advanced by
lone-gunman theorists. It is untenable. Their other theory, the jet-effect
theory, is ludicrous. Even Larry Sturdivan told the HSCA that the force that
would have resulted from the right-frontal explosion would have been minimal
(and would have pushed the head leftward, not backward and to the left). In
short, lone-gunman theorists have no explanation for the marked backward head
snap.

Mike Griffith

********

Michael Griffith does a nice job on his webpage explaining how nothing could explain such a rapid motion - except the removal of frames in the Zapruder film
http://www.mtgriffith.com/web_documents/6shots.htm
Reactions to Six Shots in the Zapruder Film
www.mtgriffith.com

The Warren Commission said only three shots were fired at President Kennedy. But there is compelling evidence in the Zapruder film alone that six shots were fired. We see reactions to shots in the following frames:
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    Gerald Fxxx A *most* excellent contribution! Thank you. I used to say that reaction could not happen if the area nerve the pro-commission theorists said caused head movement could not have happened if it was blown to a billion pieces upon contact. I mean like if you hit with a stick, but this was an instantaneous explosion obviously seen on the Z-Film. Your contribution here has replaced my dumb-dumb words with intelligent speech! As far as a massive trial if America ever gets this case into a court room - as a Constiutional Lawyer would argue best - I believe using the argument "imperical data is then conversion as direct evidence" certainly applies here. The imperical data is the medical evidence well elaborated on here and in simple enough terms that is medical fact period, and *not* opinion. Science is fact. If argued, it is the fact argued and not a theory, but fact. So the fact established here in the parley is then imperical data for the case and means in a trial it is submitted as Direct Testimony as to the facts of the case and being - there was no nerve struck in the President's head by a weapon causing the head movement. It is compared to like a direct evidence as an authentic autopsy picture or X-Ray, or authentic bullet fragments etc as evidence presented as Direct Testimony and is the facts of the case. Opinions and theories by experts and so on are outside of the facts. From what I read, this is direct medical facts that are not argued but taught in all medical schools and practiced by their graduates. Great piece, than you!

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 on: October 04, 2014, 10:18:02 am 
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David Lifton about Paul O'Conner
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=7502
IN HIS OWN WORDS.... QUOTED:

"What made O’Connor important is what he told the House Select Committee, and is recorded in the HSCA Outside Contact Report of Purdy and Flanagan, in 1977, and it comes down to 3 basic facts concerning the JFK autopsy:

1. JFK’s body arrived in a shipping casket
2. Inside, it was in a body bag
3. The cranium was empty.

O’Connor is a direct witness to these events, which is surely what was being suppressed by the “order not to talk,” which he (and the others) were placed under verbally, and then in writing, on November 26, 1963, the day after JFK’s funeral. Moreover, it was the recision of the “order not to talk” which made it possible for him (and the other) Bethesda witnesses to be interviewed by the HSCA.

Those interviews were conducted in 1977/78, and the appropriate reports written. But then Blakey didn’t like what they said and it was all locked up — and not scheduled for release until 2029.

Two things changed that schedule for the much delayed release of this information:

(1) I learned of, located, and interviewed the witnesses in 1979; and incorporated their accounts into Best Evidence, which was submitted in manuscript form by April, 1980, and was in the book stores by January, 1981..

(2) The JFK Records Act—passed as a result of Oliver Stone’s 12/91 release of JFK—led to the original HSCA documents being released in 1993/94.

Of course, the public didn’t have to wait until 1993/94; they could (and did) read Best Evidence, published in January, 1981.

The substance of what O’Connor (and the others) had to say made its first public appearance in Best Evidence, which was number one on many best seller lists by April of 1981. Further, I arranged to film his account, in October, 1980, at his home in Gainesville, Florida,, and that was broadcast nationally on several shows in the Spring of 1981 (e.g. Tom Snyder) plus in many cities across the U.S. where I went on my book tour, always carrying with me a 3/4” video of O’Connor and the other key Bethesda witnesses.

Neither the way O’Connor’s account became public nor any of the 3 key points that O’Connor made that made his account historically significant is mentioned in the obituary. The obit about Paul O’Connor should be focused on what was important about him as a witness, and the information he had which pointed to fraud in the autopsy; and how those facts became known—not on who fraternized with whom, and in what year.

When then HSCA report was released in July, 1979, and I saw the statement about the body bag, I located O’Connor (and the others), interviewed him (and the others, all in the fall of 1979) and published their accounts. (This is described in Chapter 26 of B.E.)

O’Connor’s statements that the body arrived in a body bag, inside a shipping casket; and that the cranium was empty—all that is nowhere to be found in the obituary but is spelled out in the HSCA (Purdy/Flanagan) Outside Contact Report, and it would have remained locked up until 2029, were it not for the JFK Records Act, which made it available in 1993/94. It only became available in 1981—a full 13 years earlier---because of Best Evidence.

In short, I played the major role in locating and interviewing (at length, and on camera) Paul O'Connor--and seeing to it that he was exposed, repeatedly, to a national television audience. None of that is mentioned in
the obit. Instead, the obit limits my involvement to this single sentence: "Mr. O'Connor was interviewed by David Lifton for Best Evidence”—as if events that happened in 1979-1981 can be ignored. They cannot and should not.

Starting in the Spring of 1981, Paul O’Connor’s face was all over the tv, in national broadcasts (e.g. Tom Snyder show) and in major news shows in individual cities across the country, where I was sent on tour, always carrying 3/4” video tapes of his account. Another burst of publicity occurred on the 20th anniversary (1983), another on the 25th (1988) and still more on the 30th (1993).

As Paul himself said to me back then, “Thanks for putting me on the map, buddy.”

Of course, I realize that the obit ought to be focused on Paul O’Connor, not me; but we are inextricably linked because my book and video were the means by which Paul O’Connor’s critical information became available to the world. The obit, as currently written, misses all that entirely. Instead of being written about the events of 1977-1981, when all this occurred, its as if its focused on the year 2000, or who O’Connor was fraternizing with in the late 1990s, or what he said to William Law 22 years after I first interviewed him and filmed him.

Why in the world is there this misplaced emphasis? The role of B.E. is not just diminished, it is ignored. Further, what O’Connor had to say that was important is also ignored.

The result: that O'Connor's account, and its 3 key features (the way the body arrived--shipping casket, body bag, etc.--and the empty cranium)--is omitted.

That’s like writing an obit of Thomas Edison and omitting the fact that he discovered the electric light bulb.

For your reference, I’m attaching a chronology of my involvement with O’Connor. Perhaps what you generate in the future can be a more accurate reflection of this record."

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 on: August 22, 2014, 06:32:33 pm 
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Debunk My Thesis? I don't think so!

Many persons like to attempt to "destroy" a researcher's work and resultant theory or belief and the facts showing or leading to that - and only as mischief. Other genuine persons may pose questions and show facts - and even researchers, and may possibly "debunk" or disprove a theory arrived at or belief. As anyone knows in this case, and with no official lawful judgment all these years combined with "locked away evidence", it has been a real pain to attempt to arrive at the belief of what happened - and via the zealous efforts of so many concerned - to even map the entire assassination from start to finish, even with a who's who list of the guilty involved.

I am going to go ahead here and post a bottom line "hey genius, if that's how it happened then what about this?".

As I posted I was really, really, really surprised suddenly through my own research to suddenly realize and reach the conclusion that our own American Government immediately, and ongoing, were involved in a complete National Security Mode that explained many of the puzzling things going on after the death of the President within the hour of the shots fired. I have posted support and documents for this and have given reasons for all they did as far as the Warren Commission Report and why. I have denounced those that pointed the finger at Vice President Lyndon Johnson saying/claiming he was "in on it" - and as disgraceful even.

Seeing through and dissatisfied with the Warren Report, ever since has been that quest to discover the whole truth for many Americans (most) and even many others from other nations. It was all a daze in the beginning, one question would unleash an avalanche. Simply and profoundly by the sealing up of the evidence, eyes seeing holes in the Warren Report just went on staring at the Government with the thoughts "somebody in there in a big conspiracy shot our President". The eyes and thoughts kind of glazed over like that for years - staring and glaring at the Government and the apparent Warren Commission 'cover up'. What was lost was the pursuit into USSR involvement, but turned and stayed on those in American Government.

All in all, through my "solved" thesis - I see two possibilities to "blow it to hell", and they combine as against the innocence of some of the National Security Mode going on particularly with the now President Johnson. This refers to all the accusations of the "President Johnson Executive Order 273" which is reported by many as the complete reversal of President Kennedy's position of the withdrawal of American Troops (Executive Order 263) as a "green light" to create a full blown "Viet Nam A Go-Go" money making machine for years, as long as it lasts. The other involves a mystery needed to be pursued as to one of the first Press Conferences from Parkland Hospital whereby one of the Doctors treating Governor Connally reported that a bullet was still lodged in his thigh that they will remove shortly, as his major wounds have been addressed first and that was secondary. The question goes - whatever happened to that bullet ? Hmmmm.....

So let's begin with the two Executive Orders concerning Viet Nam from JFK and then LBJ after the death of President Kennedy. The one idea reported is that LBJ signed this reversal of withdrawal to begin full scale operations and what a day after the JFK Funeral - "before he was even cold in the grave".

Now in comparing the JFK 263 and the LBJ 273 and the draft of that while JFK was alive - we see that the LBJ 273 is as very much simply using Kennedy's Draft and issuing now under his self as President as the "best way to honor President Kennedy" was to promote and pass into legislation all the things he was fighting for. WHAT THESE LYING BASTARDS DO NOT SAY IS THAT THE LBJ 273 STATES SPECIFICALLY....

QUOTE))) (LBJ 273) :
" 2. The objectives of the United States with respect to the withdrawal of U. S. military personnel remain as stated in the White House statement of October 2, 1963. "

AND WHAT WAS IN THE JFK 263 ?
QUOTE))) (JFK 263) :
"The President approved the military recommendations contained in Section I B (1 -3) of the report, but directed that no formal announcement be made of the implementation of plans to withdraw 1,000 U.S. military personnel by the end of 1963."

SO THAT ENTIRELY IN ONE STATEMENT BLOWS AWAY ALL THOSE THAT POINT THE FINGER AT LBJ SAYING HE WAS IN ON IT AND GAVE THEM THE GREEN LIGHT IN 273 TO ESCALATE A FULL BLOWN MILITARY WAR IN VIET NAM....B*U*L*L*S*H*I*D*T !

LBJ TAKING UP THE PRESIDENCY ADDRESSED THE BUSINESS LEFT ON THE PRESIDENT'S DESK AND 263 WAS ONE OF THEM. HE REINTRODUCED JFK'S WISHES AS 273. I NO LONGER HAVE THE RESPECT FOR OLIVER STONE AND HIS TRASH MOVIE - "JFK" - CONTINUING THE LIE. ....NEXT!

Now you compare those documents and see the truth. Visit the "Pentagon Papers" while you are at it. Get a good view and history of Viet Nam. See the "China Containment Policy" too. Viet Nam was simply the back door into World War Three with the USSR which JFK entered the front door at Moscow over the Cuban Missile Crisis. This was the whole reason of the Viet Nam protesters - the youth of America - who all wanted to take on Communism in Moscow, not Viet Nam which was nothing more than what Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara called it... "the real U.S. goal was "not to help friend, but to contain China.".... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers

....And this became the stalemate and loss. The United States Armed Forces held a 20 to 1 kill ratio, perhaps the greatest ever in the history of warfare. What they were up against was not just Northern Viet Nam troops, but the Viet Cong and Chinese troops being snuck into the fighting and surrounding nations involvement - Laos, Cambodia etc. The stance taken as the back door into World War Three by containing Communist Red China and her satellites (those of South east Asia) as the ground forces of USSR to invade against Allied Forces in full assault and invasion of the USSR (much as done in World War Two at D-Day) resulted in the final stalemate that it would end in some Nuclear Winter to win and the South Viet Nameese would have to agree their freedom from communist rule was simply not worth destroying the entire world over it and accept a saving face defeat with the USA.

Now understand that and what is being said ! Read a brief here from the President Kennedy State of the Union Address 1963 (his last).....

QUOTED:
"The Nassau agreement recognizes that the security of the West is indivisible, and so must be our defense. But it also recognizes that this is an alliance of proud and sovereign nations, and works best when we do not forget it. It recognizes further that the nuclear defense of the West is not a matter for the present nuclear powers alone--that France will be such a power in the future--and that ways must be found without increasing the hazards of nuclear diffusion, to increase the role of our other partners in planning, manning, and directing a truly multilateral nuclear force within an increasingly intimate NATO alliance. Finally, the Nassau agreement recognizes that nuclear defense is not enough, that the agreed NATO levels of conventional strength must be met, and that the alliance cannot afford to be in a position of having to answer every threat with nuclear weapons or nothing. "

SEE IT ? .... "...Finally, the Nassau agreement recognizes that nuclear defense is not enough, that the agreed NATO levels of conventional strength must be met, and that the alliance cannot afford to be in a position of having to answer every threat with nuclear weapons or nothing." http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=9138

"Nuclear weapons or nothing" is NOT any way to win what would become World War Three and invasion of the USSR and to end unlawful tributary communism forever from the face of the world. In other words many nuclear strikes could serve only to paralyze nations isolated as land masses separated by the seven seas. Short of ultimate planet destruction in a nuclear winter scenario, a nuclear war would not end any nation, or perhaps a few. Humanities would survive and rebuild and start war all over again as they were able. So as JFK instructed and reflected, any nuclear use must be accompanied by a sustained invasion force of levels high enough to accomplish victory. Simply this was estimated traditionally since World War Two as the United States must have a 2,000,000 man standing army. Of course this was called into action the year prior at the Cuban Missile Crisis when President Kennedy placed us at DEFCON 2.

Now do you see how the Viet Nam war was a mistake ? This was called shooting yourself in the foot in Viet Nam (a reference to a soldier shooting himself in the foot to get out of the war). The invasion force if you will was being decimated as ill planned resulting in over 500,000 casualties and over 55,000 dead. That is a staggering 25 percent of the 2 million man standing army face down in the mud wounded in Viet Nam. There is much that fingers should be pointed at President Nixon and NOT Johnson. At Nixon because he is the one that refused to win the war. He is the one that offered peace when there was none. He is the one who chickened out of war. He is the soldier that shot himself in the foot at Watergate. He was a coward! President Johnson was always considered as meaning well but was kind of country dumb and naive in the heart of hearts of the American Youth.

The United Nations Treaty and Charter constrained America to fight Communist overthrow anywhere in the world. This was also called in manner the Containment Policy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Containment ....What was President Johnson to do ? Ignore North Viet Nam ? Remove from South Korea ? Let Cuba have their missiles back ? Stay out of Southeast Asia ? Hide from Red Communism altogether like a good neighbor, to hell with their victims ? What happened is history. We can not apologize for leaders's lack of might, courage, and wisdom. Europe and the Americas would say we can not achieve our promises and blessings without the knowledge of and obeisance to God. If we do not understand God, then we can not follow His Teaching and instruction. The whole can of worms with this goes back to the League of Nations - the predecessor to the United Nations. This is man's wisdom - NOT God's. Both are ridiculously flawed by the inclusion of both the United states and the Soviet Union. Both the United States Constitution and the Communist Manifesto International forbid entering these - as is defined as Treason in both forms of government to do so. They're ridiculous and always have been. As great a leader as Jack Kennedy was, he still promoted this activity saying he was not against Containment. Why fight 50 separate wars in 50 separate countries that the Soviet Union or Red China or other autonomous communist nations would invade with Containment policy ? It is worst then absurd ! If you are against communism for all the right reasons, you go to war and defeat it - PERIOD. Eradicate it from the face of the world. You can't call it evil if it spreads but is okay if it does not. Do you see it ? The Communist Manifesto International expressly demands the conquering of all nations and anything short of that or opposing that shall be held for Treason. That constitutes Communism as Enemy of the United States and United States Constitution and charged with Treason. Now do you see it ? Neither country could ever go into the League of Nations or the United Nations together without it being Treason. It has been too nonsensical almost 100 years now. There is no apology for these leaders. And so if you want to talk about Viet Nam or any President involved then do it right. Be correct. Speak intelligently. Above all, don't be such the a*s*swhole saying "President Johnson had JFK assassinated".

We can not be expected to answer for those that talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

An example of leadership that is simply non-quality and fruitless shows we have not gotten one foot forward in 50 years in the following comparison of events from the Viet Nam Era to present day under President Obama with the Russians and Syria and Ukraine Crisis and Iraq invasion.....

READ:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_relating_to_the_Six-Day_War
"In a 1993 interview for the Johnson Presidential Library oral history archives, U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara revealed that a carrier battle group, the U.S. 6th Fleet, on a training exercise near Gibraltar was re-positioned towards the eastern Mediterranean to be able to defend Israel. The administration "thought the situation was so tense in Israel that perhaps the Syrians, fearing Israel would attack them, or the Russians supporting the Syrians might wish to redress the balance of power and might attack Israel". The Soviets learned of this deployment, which they regarded as offensive in nature, and, in a hotline message from Soviet First Secretary Alexei Kosygin, threatened the United States with war.

The Soviet Union supported its Arab allies. In May 1967, the Soviets started a surge deployment of their naval forces into the East Mediterranean. Early in the crisis they began to shadow the US and British carriers with destroyers and intelligence collecting vessels. The Soviet naval squadron in the Mediterranean was sufficiently strong to act as a major restraint on the U.S. Navy. In a 1983 interview with the Boston Globe, McNamara said that "We damn near had war". He said Kosygin was angry that "we had turned around a carrier in the Mediterranean"."

LOOK FAMILIAR ? Same players today as then - Russia with the Arabs attempting control of Israel and the Free World. We have not advanced one foot militarily.

Next .... the mysterious disappearance of the "bullet in the thigh" of Governor Connally.....


Parkland Doctors on Connally's Leg Wound


<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l428bg2JGY>

And so we see here real testimony/report by one of the treating Physicians at Parkland within those minutes to hour and so treating the wounds of Govenor Connally also hit. Now the doctor clearly is saying there is a bullet in the Govenor's left thigh, lodged, and will be removed now that the more pressing treament of wounds have been addressed. It is possible they somewhat probed the thigh wound and found a bullet. More likely I would assume they took X-Rays and saw the bullet. The Doctor did not say something like there is a fragment of a bullet lodged in the thigh. He said it was a full bullet. I had overlooked this to pursue and research what ever happened to this "bullet" reported as lodged in the Govenor's thigh. When I do that, I will add it below.

And so the point of the exercise here is someone saying they debunked my 'thesis' that the question asked must be how in the hello was National Security in the matter in place so fast within the first hour and second as in the know to then begin their National Security policy of hiding things for reasons posted across my thesis for those reasons they did? Reasons being for secret investigation into the conspiracy discovered. But that (the larger conspiracy) wasn't really discovered yet beyond initial reports of possibly more than one shot to the head of the President and possibly from different angles. The real discovery of the major conspiracy wasn't until the President's body arrived on the autopsy table at Bethesda and all saw "the President had no brain". Of course leaving Dallas, the Doctors said about one third was blown away - not the whole brain blown out. There was no autopsy surgical procedure performed which exactly involved cutting half the top of the skull off and so forth to then remove the brain for forensics of bullet paths and so on. The entire brain was missing "except for about less than a handful of mascerated brain at the bottom of the skull".

About then began the insanity for sure for those in charge to start investigating what had happened and where and by who. Soon after came the knowledge those of the Secret Service where the only ones able to do that - dispose of the President's brain - and aboard Air Force One and at the time of the swearing in of Vice president Johnson to the Presidency by law. It was the only time the President's body was alone, with them - Jackie being with the swearing in ceremony up front. As well, he arrived in a different casket at Bethesda at the autopsy room. It was shortly after these things and discoveries that what everyone has called a cover up (and myself before) was the time that National Security policy was going into effect, policy above the general as full heightened alert and so on at news of the shooting etc. The National Security policy I discovered involved the covering up of things and having those of the autopsy sworn by oath not to discuss anything and this by the Military - and then like things surrounding the autopsy results and beyond to the Presidential Commission etc. Reasons being were secret investigation.

So if the actual scope of the conspiracy wasn't even known yet, how the hello was the policy in place to then surpress anything to do with the bullet in the Govenor's thigh? Why would they know to start grabbing evidence to keep it from the public if they were not even aware yet of the scope and magnitude of the full conspiracy? Where did the bullet go? Things have been declassified. Huh guy. huh Guy? And then they go back to - bullcrap, President Johnson set the whole thing up and they were all in on it. That's the end of your bullcrap "theory".

SEE....

F.B.I. Backs Plan to Remove Connally Bullet Fragments
By DAVID JOHNSTON,
Published: June 18, 1993
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/06/18/us/fbi-backs-plan-to-remove-connally-bullet-fragments.html

Well like I said, Debunk My Thesis? I don't think so! 


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 on: August 22, 2014, 06:30:29 pm 
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CHECK OUT.... 

Bobby Kennedy: America's first assassination conspiracy theorist
May 13, 2007
BY DAVID TALBOT
http://newsmine.org/content.php?ol=deceptions/assassinations/jfk/rfk-accused-cia-of-jfk-murder.txt

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 on: July 31, 2014, 11:40:34 am 
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July 31, 2014 · 8:44 am The true Second Coming is before the Second Coming
http://christianeministry.wordpress.com/2014/07/31/the-true-second-coming-is-before-the-second-coming/

The true Second Coming is before the Second Coming

The traditional “Second Coming” refers to the Messiah Jesus Christ returning from Heaven to the earth at the end – as the world itself and the Christians alive yet are translated into the new Heaven, called New Jerusalem….

Revelation of John 21
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

AND HERE

I Thessalonians 4
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

And Messiah Jesus Christ spoke on this wise…..

Matthew 16
24 ¶Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Luke 9:26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father’s, and of the holy angels. 27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.

The true Second Coming is before the Second Coming

Revelation of John 10
1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.
9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
10 And I took the little book out of the angel’s hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

In verse one, this is the risen Savior, Messiah Jesus Christ …..

1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:

When considering the many warnings in the Gospel such as false prophets, false teachers, false miracles – the one sign from God we can hang onto is the rainbow, as one sign these can not fake, including the devil….

Genesis 9
11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.
Have you seen the real Second Coming? Keep watching rainbows – you might have missed!

Note the significance of the book of Revelation Chapter 10 in verse 2…. and understand in the many verses the meaning of under foot….
2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,

The sea is the beast666 and the land is the false prophet, both in the Book of Revelation…..
Psalms 110:1 The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

The Messiah Jesus Christ receives that promise to Him and unto Israel….

Psalms 110:1 The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Isaiah 18:7 ¶In that time shall the present be brought unto the Lord of hosts of a people scattered and peeled, and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name of the Lord of hosts, the mount Zion.
Joshua 1
3 Every place that the sole of your foot shall tread upon, that have I given unto you, as I said unto Moses.
4 From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast.
5 There shall not any man be able to stand before thee all the days of thy life: as I was with Moses, so I will be with thee: I will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.
6 Be strong and of a good courage: for unto this people shalt thou divide for an inheritance the land, which I sware unto their fathers to give them.
7 Only be thou strong and very courageous, that thou mayest observe to do according to all the law, which Moses my servant commanded thee: turn not from it to the right hand or to the left, that thou mayest prosper whithersoever thou goest.
8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.
9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

Psalms 68
20 He that is our God is the God of salvation; and unto God the Lord belong the issues from death.
21 But God shall wound the head of his enemies, and the hairy scalp of such an one as goeth on still in his trespasses.
22 The Lord said, I will bring again from Bashan, I will bring my people again from the depths of the sea:
23 That thy foot may be dipped in the blood of thine enemies, and the tongue of thy dogs in the same.
24 They have seen thy goings, O God; even the goings of my God, my King, in the sanctuary.
25 The singers went before, the players on instruments followed after; among them were the damsels playing with timbrels.
26 Bless ye God in the congregations, even the Lord, from the fountain of Israel.

Psalms 91
1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.

Psalms 99:5 Exalt ye the Lord our God, and worship at his footstool; for he is holy.

Psalms 132
7 We will go into his tabernacles: we will worship at his footstool.
8 Arise, O Lord, into thy rest; thou, and the ark of thy strength.
9 Let thy priests be clothed with righteousness; and let thy saints shout for joy.
10 For thy servant David’s sake turn not away the face of thine anointed.
11 The Lord hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.
[Jesus was of lineage of David through his Mother Mary of the lineage of David]
12 If thy children will keep my covenant and my testimony that I shall teach them, their children shall also sit upon thy throne for evermore.
13 For the Lord hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation.
14 This is my rest for ever: here will I dwell; for I have desired it.
15 I will abundantly bless her provision: I will satisfy her poor with bread.
16 I will also clothe her priests with salvation: and her saints shall shout aloud for joy.
17 There will I make the horn of David to bud: I have ordained a lamp for mine anointed.
18 His enemies will I clothe with shame: but upon himself shall his crown flourish.

NOTE ABOVE “11 The Lord hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.
[Jesus was of lineage of David through his Mother Mary of the lineage of David]“
HERE:
Matthew 22
41 ¶While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David.
43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,
44  The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
45  If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.
FOR Jesus was not born of Joseph espoused to Mary, but conceived of by the Holy Spirit of God…. AND HERE:
Luke 20
39 ¶Then certain of the scribes answering said, Master, thou hast well said.
40 And after that they durst not ask him any question at all.
41 And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David’s son?
42  And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
43  Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
44  David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?
45 ¶Then in the audience of all the people he said unto his disciples,
46  Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;
47  Which devour widows’ houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.

Continuing….. The Messiah Jesus Christ receives that promise to Him and unto Israel….

Isaiah 14:25
24 ¶The Lord of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:
25 That I will break the Assyrian [beast666 in sides of north] in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.
26 This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations.
27 For the Lord of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back?

Isaiah 26
1 In that day shall this song be sung in the land of Judah; We have a strong city; salvation will God appoint for walls and bulwarks.
2 Open ye the gates, that the righteous nation which keepeth the truth may enter in.
3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.
4 Trust ye in the Lord for ever: for in the Lord Jehovah is everlasting strength:
5 ¶For he bringeth down them that dwell on high; the lofty city, he layeth it low; he layeth it low, even to the ground; he bringeth it even to the dust.
6 The foot shall tread it down, even the feet of the poor, and the steps of the needy.
7 The way of the just is uprightness: thou, most upright, dost weigh the path of the just.

Isaiah 66:1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

Jeremiah 12
7 ¶I have forsaken mine house, I have left mine heritage; I have given the dearly beloved of my soul into the hand of her enemies.
8 Mine heritage is unto me as a lion in the forest; it crieth out against me: therefore have I hated it.
9 Mine heritage is unto me as a speckled bird, the birds round about are against her; come ye, assemble all the beasts of the field, come to devour.
10 Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.

Ezekiel 32:13 I will destroy also all the beasts thereof from beside the great waters; neither shall the foot of man trouble them any more, nor the hoofs of beasts trouble them.

Matthew 5:13 ¶ Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

Revelation of John 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.  2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 

Zechariah 14
1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 ¶And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

The secret mystery in the Scriptures, they shall anoint (baptize) the Messiah Jesus Christ at the True “Second Coming”, for God’s people shall do His Will and defeat the enemies (beast666 and false prophet, their followers) with the help of God and the Messiah Jesus Christ…..

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks [70 years by the books, the life of the beast666] are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Luke 12:49 ¶ I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?   50  But I [Messiah Jesus Christ] have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!

Daniel 7:18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
Daniel 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

Psalms 2
1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.
10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. 

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July 26, 2014 · 4:05 am Christian roots of Rock ‘N’ Roll
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Christian roots of Rock ‘N’ Roll

The Lord promises the Reborns….

*****Isa 30:29 Ye shall have a song, as in the night when a holy solemnity is kept; and gladness of heart, as when one goeth with a pipe to come into the mountain of the Lord, to the mighty One of Israel.

How loud ?

*****Psa 33:3 Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud noise.

Of history, a lot of “MoTown Music” of the 1960’s Era had religious roots. Of course The Beatles composed many “parables” in an ingeneous way that kind of set the ‘underground’ style and were even banned in Communist USSR Russia. They were the “voice of the youth” virtually throughout the world that heard them. ‘I am the Walrus’ is a song about the False Prophet of the Beast666 for example. The walrus was a worshipped witchraft idol and kind of as a king of the 7 seas. This referred to the 6th Kingdom of Red Communism in the Book of Revelation of the Authorized King James Holy Bible as the “queen of witchcrafts sitting on the seas”.

The “eggman” refers to the False Prophet from the Book of Revelation of the Authorized King James Holy Bible. The verse is found in the Old Testament of the Authorized King James Holy Bible as the Book of Isaiah Chapter 14, verse 29 ….
“Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent’s root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.” (unquote)

The “cockatrice” long ago was described as a mythical type of rooster (Beast666) . The “fiery flying serpent” ( as the egg of the rooster) is the False Prophet “speaking as a dragon” (Revelation 13:11) . Get it ? – ” I am the eggman, they are the eggman…” ["Elijah lied, break on through to the other side... Doors] which comes from Old Testament I Kings 22:22 .

Additional verses…..
Isaiah 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice’ den.
Isaiah 59:5 They hatch cockatrice’ eggs, and weave the spider’s web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.
Jeremiah 8:17 For, behold, I will send serpents, cockatrices, among you, which will not be charmed, and they shall bite you, saith the Lord.

Can you guess what was “Yellow Submarine” (Beatles) ? How about the Rooling Stones ‘Tumbling Dice’ – “…sixes and sevens…” ? How about earlier – who is “Wooley Bully” ? Volumes upon volumes from those days.

The BBC broadcasted The Beatles live to the World…..

All You Need Is Love (The Beatles)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_You_Need_Is_Love

“All You Need Is Love” is a song written by John Lennon and credited to Lennon–McCartney. It was first performed by The Beatles on ‘Our World’, the first live global television link. Watched by 400 million in 26 countries, the program was broadcast via satellite on 25 June 1967. ” (Unquote) .

More, Music – and to the Chief of Strings….

Psa 28:7 The Lord is my strength and my shield; my heart trusted in him, and I am helped: therefore my heart greatly rejoiceth; and with my song will I praise him.

Psa 33:3 Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud noise.

Psa 40:3 And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the Lord.

Psa 66:1 To the chief Musician, A Song or Psalm. Make a joyful noise unto God, all ye lands

Psa 69:30 I will praise the name of God with a song, and will magnify him with thanksgiving.

Psa 77:6 I call to remembrance my song in the night: I commune with mine own heart: and my spirit made diligent search.

Psa 96:1 O sing unto the Lord a new song: sing unto the Lord, all the earth.

Psa 98:1 A Psalm. O sing unto the Lord a new song; for he hath done marvellous things: his right hand, and his holy arm, hath gotten him the victory.

Psa 118:14 The Lord is my strength and song, and is become my salvation.

Psa 122:1 A Song of degrees of David. I was glad when they said unto me, Let us go into the house of the Lord.

Psa 126:1 A Song of degrees. When the Lord turned again the captivity of Zion, we were like them that dream.

Psa 133:1 A Song of degrees of David. Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!

Psa 137:3 For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion.

Psa 137:4 How shall we sing the Lord’s song in a strange land?

Psa 144:9 I will sing a new song unto thee, O God: upon a psaltery and an instrument of ten strings will I sing praises unto thee.

Ecc 7:5 It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools.

Isa 24:9 They shall not drink wine with a song; strong drink shall be bitter to them that drink it.

Isa 42:10 Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof.

Eze 33:32 And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.

Psa 137:5 If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning.

*****REMEMBER….
Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
The Lord promises the Reborns….

*****Isa 30:29 Ye shall have a song, as in the night when a holy solemnity is kept; and gladness of heart, as when one goeth with a pipe to come into the mountain of the Lord, to the mighty One of Israel.

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July 26, 2014 · 3:54 am God and Jesus Christ not tea party Members
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God and Jesus Christ not tea party Members (from a recent facebook convo…)

As you can see in this Tea Party “flyer”:
https://www.facebook.com/TheTeaParty.net/photos/pb.133279166727577.-2207520000.1406362495./760538587334962/?type=3&theater

….it is very offensive to Christians. Seems a main platform for Republicanism and Conservatism and Tea Party is to get the “Christian vote” , to be opposing evil liberalism of the Democrats. Yet here their battle cry is via the spirit of anti-christ, to say, to disobey and not observe the laws of God, no harm will come, we are doing the right thing.
This posting of their’s is *obviously not* the spirit of God teaching those things. What about all of this from God’s mouth…..

Exodus 22:21 Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Deuteronomy 24:14 Thou shalt not oppress an hired servant that is poor and needy, whether he be of thy brethren, or of thy strangers that are in thy land within thy gates:

Malachi 3:5 And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the Lord of hosts.

Jeremiah 7:6 If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt:
7 Then will I cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, for ever and ever.
8 ¶Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit.
9 Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;
10 And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?
11 Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the Lord.
12 But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel.
13 And now, because ye have done all these works, saith the Lord, and I spake unto you, rising up early and speaking, but ye heard not; and I called you, but ye answered not; 14 Therefore will I do unto this house, which is called by my name, wherein ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I have done to Shiloh.

Jeremiah 22:3 Thus saith the Lord; Execute ye judgment and righteousness, and deliver the spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor: and do no wrong, do no violence to the stranger, the fatherless, nor the widow, neither shed innocent blood in this place.
4 For if ye do this thing indeed, then shall there enter in by the gates of this house kings sitting upon the throne of David, riding in chariots and on horses, he, and his servants, and his people.
5 But if ye will not hear these words, I swear by myself, saith the Lord, that this house shall become a desolation.

Ezekiel 22:7 In thee have they set light by father and mother: in the midst of thee have they dealt by oppression with the stranger: in thee have they vexed the fatherless and the widow.

Ezekiel 22:29 The people of the land have used oppression, and exercised robbery, and have vexed the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the stranger wrongfully.
30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none.
31 Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord God.

Zechariah 7:8 ¶And the word of the Lord came unto Zechariah, saying,
9 Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Execute true judgment, and shew mercy and compassions every man to his brother:
10 And oppress not the widow, nor the fatherless, the stranger, nor the poor; and let none of you imagine evil against his brother in your heart.
11 But they refused to hearken, and pulled away the shoulder, and stopped their ears, that they should not hear.
12 Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which the Lord of hosts hath sent in his spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from the Lord of hosts.
13 Therefore it is come to pass, that as he cried, and they would not hear; so they cried, and I would not hear, saith the Lord of hosts:
14 But I scattered them with a whirlwind among all the nations whom they knew not. Thus the land was desolate after them, that no man passed through nor returned: for they laid the pleasant land desolate.

More, more, more…..

Deuteronomy 15:5 Only if thou carefully hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all these commandments which I command thee this day.
6 For the Lord thy God blesseth thee, as he promised thee: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, but thou shalt not borrow; and thou shalt reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over thee.
7 ¶If there be among you a poor man of one of thy brethren within any of thy gates in thy land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not harden thine heart, nor shut thine hand from thy poor brother:
8 But thou shalt open thine hand wide unto him, and shalt surely lend him sufficient for his need, in that which he wanteth.

Deuteronomy 15:11 For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.

Leviticus 19:10 And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the Lord your God.

Leviticus 19:30 ¶Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the Lord.
31 ¶Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God.
32 ¶Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I am the Lord.
33 ¶And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

Leviticus 23:22 ¶And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not make clean riddance of the corners of thy field when thou reapest, neither shalt thou gather any gleaning of thy harvest: thou shalt leave them unto the poor, and to the stranger: I am the Lord your God.

Leviticus 24:22 Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the Lord your God.

Leviticus 25:35 ¶And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.
36 Take thou no usury of him, or increase: but fear thy God; that thy brother may live with thee.
37 Thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury, nor lend him thy victuals for increase.
38 I am the Lord your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, to give you the land of Canaan, and to be your God.
39 ¶And if thy brother that dwelleth by thee be waxen poor, and be sold unto thee; thou shalt not compel him to serve as a bondservant:
40 But as an hired servant, and as a sojourner, he shall be with thee, and shall serve thee unto the year of jubile:

Numbers 15:16 One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.

Deuteronomy 10:17 For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:
18 He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow, and loveth the stranger, in giving him food and raiment.
19 Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
20 Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God; him shalt thou serve, and to him shalt thou cleave, and swear by his name.
21 He is thy praise, and he is thy God, that hath done for thee these great and terrible things, which thine eyes have seen.

Are you catching on about the Laws of God and the “strangers” in the land?

We have the law of the land which has rules for immigration. When America can not receive anymore healthily for self (country) and prospective immigrants to provide the promise of employment etc. – that is when the gates get shut. I thouroughly agree that those not of status of an official exodus – running from persecution – or those not applying legally for immigation should be arrested. Their charge is stealing the American way of life from Americans. Messiah Jesus Christ taught… “John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. ” …… How much more so for the Nation – unlawful entry.  Those few Scriptures are only the tip of the iceberg as to all has been taught and commanded. I am ashamed of this in America and know God will move upon all.

As for the rest of that anti-christ crap on that poster – you read/watch this concerning “freebies” and the rest, but we all know those people of tea party care about nothing but themselves and only the punishment of God can reach the deaf adder……

John F. Kennedy Annual Message to the Congress on the State of the Union January 14, 1963 http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=9138

JFK’s 1963 State of the Union(video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOIb_F84aCg
So unto the tea party people and those following their anti-christ trash I say the Lord well wrote to speak again……

Psalms 58

1 Do ye indeed speak righteousness, O congregation? do ye judge uprightly, O ye sons of men?
2 Yea, in heart ye work wickedness; ye weigh the violence of your hands in the earth.
3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
4 Their poison is like the poison of a serpent: they are like the deaf adder that stoppeth her ear;
5 Which will not hearken to the voice of charmers, charming never so wisely.
6 Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth: break out the great teeth of the young lions, O Lord.
7 Let them melt away as waters which run continually: when he bendeth his bow to shoot his arrows, let them be as cut in pieces.
8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.
9 Before your pots can feel the thorns, he shall take them away as with a whirlwind, both living, and in his wrath.
10 The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.
11 So that a man shall say, Verily there is a reward for the righteous: verily he is a God that judgeth in the earth.

AMEN!

Psalms 112

1 Praise ye the Lord. Blessed is the man that feareth the Lord, that delighteth greatly in his commandments.
2 His seed shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the upright shall be blessed.
3 Wealth and riches shall be in his house: and his righteousness endureth for ever.
4 Unto the upright there ariseth light in the darkness: he is gracious, and full of compassion, and righteous.
5 A good man sheweth favour, and lendeth: he will guide his affairs with discretion.
6 Surely he shall not be moved for ever: the righteous shall be in everlasting remembrance.
7 He shall not be afraid of evil tidings: his heart is fixed, trusting in the Lord.
8 His heart is established, he shall not be afraid, until he see his desire upon his enemies.
9 He hath dispersed, he hath given to the poor; his righteousness endureth for ever; his horn shall be exalted with honour.
10 The wicked shall see it, and be grieved; he shall gnash with his teeth, and melt away: the desire of the wicked shall perish.

But the Christian hope and promise from God is Elijah (Elias) shall come first….

Zechariah 11
10 ¶And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the Lord.
12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
13 And the Lord said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the Lord.
14 Then I cut asunder mine other staff, even Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.
15 ¶And the Lord said unto me, Take unto thee yet the instruments of a foolish shepherd.
16 For, lo, I will raise up a shepherd in the land [Elijah], which shall not visit those that be cut off, neither shall seek the young one, nor heal that that is broken, nor feed that that standeth still: but he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and tear their claws in pieces.
17 Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

Malachi 4
4 ¶Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
5 ¶Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Matthew 17:11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias (Elijah) truly shall first come, and restore all things.

Mark 9:12 And he answered and told them, Elias (Elijah) verily cometh first, and restoreth all things; and how it is written of the Son of man, that he must suffer many things, and be set at nought.

Many happy returns…

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Question: So do you mean you are looking for Elias at this point in time?

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I think your question may be what is the proof we are in the “end times” – and that of course then includes Elias/Elijah will be present obviously, as told by God and Messiah Jesus Christ recorded in the Scriptures (Holy Bible). The skeptics and media and persons in general have heard from many, over many years, about “this is it – it is the end of the world told in the Bible”. Even those deemed or dubbed “doomsday prophets” as even stranger, as the Denver ones and that haley comet cult in San Diego no too many years ago. Among some of those was the Waco Texas group and of course the infamous Rev. Jim Jones and the mass suicide/murder. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_%28religious_group%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones
http://www.culteducation.com/group/864-concerned-christians/3563-police-members-of-denver-doomsday-cult-are-in-israel.html

Esias, Elijah, Elias – same person. I am not looking for him “at this time” but rather to his election and installation from the Hand of God promised….. Hosea 1:11 Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel. …..House of Israel meant as the hypocrites etc and Judah as the remnant believers. Finally these shall agree eye to eye and anoint and elect Elijah/Elias/Esias as King of Israel being from the house of David in lineage of course. We have read the Word how that the Messiah Jesus Christ was sacrificed by God for all, and was not sent at that time to be elected in Israel as King, being lineage of the house of David (Mary was lineage of the house of David) and of Judea. On the surface, the many prophecies about Elijah/Elias/Esias seem to be talking about Messiah Jesus Christ. Because of the cup given Him by God, we know different.

I know you have studied and read the Word these many years now. We are familiar with all the teachings about the many who reject or refuse it – or are not convinced of it and so on. Even here there is a more direct question from many – “can you prove there is God?” We know from the Book of Revelation which is the full prophecy and Gospel of the end that there is “the remnant” which means less, even way less, of a majority of “true believers” are in the world….. Revelation of John 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. …..The 7,000 reveals Elijah/Esias/Elias hiding those from death from the Scriptures. The time of murderous Jezebel and Elijah….. I Kings 19:18 Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him. …..And the point is that there are yet many that have not converted yet, and can not hear God or Messiah Jesus Christ. Even “Doubting Thomas” did not believe the resurrected Messiah Jesus Christ – we know the Gospel writing there. God having mercy shall bring whom he will to the Messiah Jesus Christ to be saved. Who of all the unborn shall hear God about Elijah/Elias/Esias and when he is and why.

Matthew 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them. 18 ¶Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.

These are snippets and brief one-liner type responses and is quite difficult to give a good full answer of the subject matter and in this setting. Your question in other words, deserves as a one or two hour sermon to reply properly and fully. I think we both have observed that mysteriously the prophesy of Elijah/Elias/Esias that “shall come first” before the end of the world (meaning is translated into the new world as New Jerusalem – so yes this world itself as we know it shall end) – has not been preached or taught in any significance in all the Churches world wide. I see that as two reasons. One of course is the ignorance of it in the many who handle the Word of God. The other was the prophesy that during a time in the end there shall be those who remain silent in an evil time as the wisdom therein for that time. (Looking for that in the Scriptures).

I have posted as a full pedigree of Elijah/Elias/Esias – the last king of Israel at my Bible Studies online here http://echurchofphiladelphia.org/

Also here….. eChurchOfPhiladelphia.Org eChurch Forums http://churchphilaforums.freesmfhosting.com/index.php

It is extremely important because of the Mid-East Nations around Israel and their faith to be preached Elijah/Elias/Esias. “Blindness in part…” has happened to them. They know of God and Abraham but not the Messiah Jesus Christ – so where their salvation, or any that will not hear the Lord of Lords the Messiah Jesus Christ.

Elijah/Elias/Esias is the ‘key figure’ of the “end times” It is revealed to me that the Apostle Paul, Apostle to the Gentiles, is the likeness in Elijah/Elias/Esias showing he is a “half-breed” like Paul who was Saul. The Apostle Paul was a Roman and a Jew (“half-breed”). The appointment by God of Paul seemed always a mystery as like why? Already had the 12 Apostles charged to preach the Gospel. Why the appointment of another “Apostle to the Gentiles” ? It shows at the dispersal of Israel about 70 A.D. that those of the family of Jesus went northward – “the families of the north”. Here shows the lineage of Elijah/Elias/Esias as well as being a direct descendant of the family of Messiah Jesus Christ and to say that he is of the children of Mary who were the brothers and sisters of Messiah Jesus Christ whose father then was Joseph whom Mary was espoused to. Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. (This is the lineage from Adam to David to Messiah Jesus Christ to Elijah/Elias/Esias – all of the Tribe of Judah)

The hard part….. who will be able to reasonably walk up to muslim faith nations and tell them Mohammed was a false prophet? yet it is promised of God – the Gospel preached to every tongue, every knee shall bow. It is Elijah/Elias/Esias who is that half-breed as the sign and wonder of God who his image was the child of Abraham – Ishmael and God said I will make of him 12 tribes. The only 12 Tribes taught are the 12 Tribes of Israel. These is the signs, image, similitude, wonder of it all. The 12 tribes of Ishmael shows the twin of Israel as the Believers of the Gentiles (non-Jewish races). These shall be grafted in as all in all the World of Believers, Israel. All believers are made Jews by the Holy Spirit of God in them as is the Messiah Jesus Christ in all, their father. The Apostle paul and Ishmael are also the sign of Elijah/Elias/Esias to come at the end.

I am not “looking for him at this time”. I know he is here today and alive by the Scriptures. According to them, his anscestors traveled North to Christian England (passing catholics) and perhaps migrated to America via ancestry here – actually born in America, as the house of David was scattered in 70 A.D. as prophecied by Messiah Jesus Christ ‘ “house left desolate to you….”. There is that mystery of the 7 Churches in Asia including Philadelphia which no longer exists there – yet the Word of God, to it, is the instruction of the “end times” and thus is written to the Church of Philadelphia that indeed exists in the “end times”. The “in Asia” seems signifying the great gentile peoples outside Israel. The vast Asia of northern persons not of Abraham – either lineage of David or Ishmael. We go to the 12 Apostles telling Messiah Jesus Christ they are able to drink of his cup. This signifies they were willing to preach unto death the Word of God and Gospel of Messiah Jesus Christ. And that was the cup they drank of – the Lord’s, who was crucified. Elijah/Elias/Esias sent before the end reveals his lineage as that of the house of David as Messiah Jesus Christ (the Lion of the Tribe of Judea) and the exodus of the family of Messiah Jesus Christ whose descendants then survived extinction in other words, though it is apparent the Apostles were all crucified before the Revelation – given as neccessary. The Word of God goes not out void but accomplishes, and therefore the necessity of the Revelation to John the Elder as the completion of the Gospel preached to every tongue.

Some in the day even called Messiah Jesus Christ Elijah/Elias/Esias…..

Matthew 16:13 ¶When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.

Well, as I said this subject matter (Elijah/Elias/Esias) is not a simple one line answer in any matter. I have expounded on it in my Bible Studies which as well show he is here now. That is revealed in Revelation. In my Studies posted, I have not posted traditional simple sermons or lessons. Rather I have posted the weightier matters. Going through them shows the failures to date of the restoration of the Nation of Israel (not the State) and that importance, the “debunking” if you will, of the Beast666 and the 7 mountains and the False Prophet and 7 heads and the tatoo of the beast666 etc. Also the mystery of the 10 kingdoms. Also that the Scriptures reveal there is no such thing as Palestinians (extinct) but the Scriptures reveal these peoples are the decendants of the original Phillistines and are Phillistinians – and the importance of that. In those are the Pedigree of Elijah/Elias/Esias – who he is and the significance as world changing.

Looking for Elias? No, as I said I know he is alive and here on the earth in this late hour that the beast666 and false prophet (bin laden) in Revelation are dead. He has been here for some time according to the Scriptures. When a prophecy is fulfilled, so is that time – yet there remains so much to happen and is why I look to the election of Elijah/Elias/Esias who shall be made head and that great day of his commission……

Elijah/Elias/Esias shall complete over and above the dream of the United Nations……

Isaiah 2
1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.
2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord’s house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
5 O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the Lord.
Without confusion – God and Messiah Jesus Christ will not be teaching the Scriptures or the Gospel or the laws of God in Heaven, Paradise, New Jerusalem here on earth. The Law is for sinners – here on earth. There is no law in Eternal Paradise. It’s over, done, accomplished, finished. Above shows the Election of Elijah/Elias/Esias by not just Israel – but of the world, as is prophecied here that finally the world shall bow to God and Messiah Jesus Christ and acknowledge the nation and people of Israel as world leader of nations and head of earth as God’s peculiar people of all the peoples of the world – His Purposes. To this the nations shall flow and obey. That little spark of a hopeful word by JFK many years ago in “Camelot”. /tears.

Bind the strong man of sin first……

Written to/of Elijah/Elias/Esias – the promise and prophecy of God….

Revelation of John 3
6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Those saying they are Jews and are not but do lie – the beast666 and all his followers….. Revelation of John 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. …….. Ezra 2:13 The children of Adonikam, six hundred sixty and six. Bang!


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